On May 28, 2008, at 10:07 PM, lord4444444444@aol.com wrote:
SHare I dont understand what you are saying here. So she is trying to teach you how to regrow a tooth etc? And you insert WHOSE enrrgy into your time friame. and what do you mean makes it easier (for whom) to manipulate beliefs (whose beliefs) within her time frame?
THen you say it takes a length of time to accept and incorporate beliefs such as grrowing new limbs or teeth. So what is the process? ONe accepts his belief that he cant, and then choose one that he can? Thanks
Steve L
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The ability to grow a new limb or new set of permanent teeth is possible, and is simply a matter of believing that you can. However, right now, the belief that we cannot do those things are very strong. By inserting new beliefs or ideas into my time frame gives it time to cook, so to speak, and after a few generations acceptance of the new beliefs make them easy to manifest in Petunia's time frame.
Share
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Ah Share, thats interesting. So then the subjective , even in deciding how we should die, doesnt make some well reasoned decision to like give you a hreart attack for the experience, but thinks it must give you some disease or injury simply because some nutty belierf told it , so to speak,that that was the only way and the Subjective bought that. Gives one less faithi in his subjective huh, as an all knowing essence that knows what best, Its as much in the dark as our conscious mind.
Also re your thought coment, in 2002 before my psi wasnt being hindered by this brain problem I have, I was able to perform one magical creation after another simply by saying the words, like" I want to energize the New York Jets Football team", and for about thirty seconds afterwards when I would do that (one play) they would play like they were shot out of a cannon. So I guess we would have to say tHese experiences were due to my explicitly expressed intention. ,
Steve L
In a message dated 5/28/2008 7:19:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lfdeale@mac.com writes:
Thought does not create reality. The choice to disengage is made the same as it is now, but the method does not necessarily require beliefs about accident or disease making the idea of death less frightful.
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You are your subjective self. It is not doing anything without your consent.
What I am saying is that in Petunia's time frame the choice to disengage is viewed as a choice and not as something inflicted upon someone without their knowledge or consent. In this time frame individuals often choose an accident or disease as the method of death, because generally individuals do not believe someone is choosing the action of death. In Petunia's time frame the choice of disengagement or death is an acceptable choice in society, and there is no need to create an accident or disease, they simply die.
Share
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Damn! That pretty much seals our fate that Elias was correct and we wont be able to regenerate lost tissue . BUt of course I understand there are no absolutes. Sounds like our only hope is os to do what Petunia is doing and contact a past focus and insert the desired belief into their consciousness. MYRANDAAAA!
Ok then , since that is Petunia's agenda, then I assume she would want you to get her message to as large an audience as possible. Does that sound right?
Steve L
In a message dated 5/28/2008 11:01:56 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lfdeale@mac.com writes:
Some of their people can, some cannot. But you are correct, inserting the idea into this time frame makes it more available and easier in their time frame.
Share
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It isn't necessarily important that I attract a large audience, but I will affect a particular group of individuals. Remember, Petunia is my future focus, and she is inserting energy into her own past. Everyone may create their realities whatever way they choose, there are no absolutes as you say. No fate is sealed.
Share
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SHare your saying that some of Petunia's people cannot yet regrow tissue is quite perplexing to me. My understanding from Elias about the shift and Thom and Vernal about their lives , that they, and I presumed that included any post shifter, that being what the shift is all about, , that they can and we will, be able to create ANYTHING we want, that ALL our beliefs will be accepted by a bout 2075? So why cant ALL of Petunia's people regenerate tissue.?
Steve Lord
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Not all life challenges are eliminated in the after shift environment. For the most part all can regenerate new teeth, this is very easy. But to regenerate a new limb depends on how the individual lost the limb in the first place, and the choices they make. Sometimes the limb is only damaged, and they may choose to work with the limb in its damaged state to generate healing, rather than eliminate the limb and grow a new one. It depends on the individual. So some cannot because they do not choose that method. In Petunia's time frame there are less absolutes, so there is no particular one way. Each individual chooses from many options.
Share
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Here is on Share's website, Elias confrming what I just asked Share, perplexing me even more.
"Elias: Yes! Therefore, they (post-shift focuses) do not incorporate
all of the answers either"
Share can you ask Petunia to discuss this failure of post shifters to be able to do what we have always understood they would be able to do, THanks, and can you ask her if is going to prove ALMOST absolutely impossible for us to regemerrate tissue, because that was something I wanted to do for myself too. Ive got some teeth that got messed up by this brainclamp disease which is due to a factor in my blood, that Id like to replace. Thanks.
Steve Lord
In a message dated 5/28/2008 11:41:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lord4444444444@aol.com writes:
SHare your saying that some of Petunia's people cannot yet regrow tissue is quite perplexing to me. My understanding from Elias about the shift and Thom and Vernal about their lives , that they, and I presumed that included any post shifter, that being what the shift is all about, , that they can and we will, be able to create ANYTHING we want, that ALL our beliefs will be accepted by a bout 2075? So why cant ALL of Petunia's people regenerate tissue.?
Steve Lord
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Anything is possible even now. Is it probable for you? That depends on your own level of self-trust.
Petunia does not intend to prove anything and what would incorporate proof? But she does say that in her time frame individuals are overall more trusting of themselves and therefore more satisfied and accomplished, but challenges still exist. It depends on the individual.
Share
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Wait a minute. Petunia's gang can change their looks to look like anything they want. That sound harder tahn regrowing a few teeth??? WHat about that Petunia? Mr. Lord's head is spinning.
Steve Lord
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They are aware of their choices for physical structure before they manifest and don't believe that their appearance is totally a product of random DNA selection at conception. They are able to modify their looks the way we modify our physical structure with surgery, except surgery is not needed. However, sometimes they modify their appearance towards more uniqueness rather than to conform to a societal standard like a model. Playfulness is involved and it is not difficult.
Share
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Tthanks Share, so then do you mean Petunia isnt trying to instill the regeneration of tissue belief into our entire society, but rather just into you so she personally will benefit? WHy , is she missing a limb or something?.
This story too is confusing because Thom and Vernal had said that if we pujlled the plug on the shift, they wouldnt be affected, they would just keep on as if we had shifted, but they would then just in a different dimensin than us. THus impliies that they would not be affected by anything we choose from now on, its already etched in stone for them vis a vis us, I guess based on our present probabilities. WHat I mean is, if us pulling the plug on the shift wouldnt change their reality at all, then neither would our adopting a belief in regereration, D you follow.? BUt Petunia is in a sense disputing that, IF in the case of if we adopting a mass belief in regeneration, that would help her whole society.
SO then can Petunia explain for us this apparaent contradiction of how us pulling the plug on the shift wouldnt affect them, but us making other changes of course would? Maybe its all just a matter of their choice which of our changes they choose to follow, shift abortion, no, adoption of belief in limb and teeth generation, yes.
Thanks,
Steee Lord
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Petunia isn't trying to instill the belief, she is sharing information with me, as I am sharing information with you. Our interaction, Petunia's and mine, benefit us both. You might want to view it as an experiment. It is not as absolute as you seem to indicate. When I say she has an agenda, I mean she has a particular intent in our interchange.
I don't know anything about Thom and Vernal, but it sounds to me like they are in a different dimension. I don't think comparison is useful.
Share
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